TNT – Monday

TONY – Today is Monday, December 1 and it should be an interesting call. DC will not be here today as he is on a family hunting trip. He spent the weekend with his son and brother and sent us pics. That’s where he is today.

T – I can’t tell you only so many times that we’re waiting on Iraq. They are supposed to make an announcement at 9PM tonight local time and we don’t know if that’s been done yet. Everything has been done, done, done. They’re waiting on US approval to do it. The US says they’re not going to block it. They’re not blocking it, but they’re just not accepting it.

T – So far the US has promised to let Iraq celebrate tonight and tomorrow as long as the USA can do its citizens when they want to. There is a big push to do it early in the evening or mid-morning tomorrow as far as Iraq. ISIX will resume trading on Wednesday and they want it to come back up with the new rate.

T – So far the US has promised to let Iraq celebrate tonight and tomorrow as long as the USA can do its citizens when they want to. There is a big push to do it early in the evening or mid-morning tomorrow as far as Iraq. ISIX will resume trading on Wednesday and they want it to come back up with the new rate.

T – Banking procedures: banks are ready, all laws pertaining to terrorism have been changed accordingly; the rate is accounted for in the budget. Here there are people exchanging today and over the weekend. They are calling people in to explain things to them, what to expect, etc. right now. They’re trying to keep things moving at different levels. We haven’t gotten the package yet, so I’m just giving you what I’ve gotten from different banks.

T – This is from people who have already gone thru the processes. Banks are watching for terrorists and bank laundering. They’re giving people 10% up front; doing a background check up front. So far we hear there may be a flat tax on contract rate and no tax on the street/int’l rate. That’s what they’re briefing them on right now. There is a limit on the IQD on the contract rate. We’re hearing that no exchange funds can be used to payoff reserves. We don’t know if that applies to the contract rate or int’l rate. Some banks are saying they cannot use their cash to payoff reserves. There is a fee attached to your exchange. All I’m going to say is “no guts, no glory.”

T – What they’ve been paying out so far is $9-$15, some got $28.50, a very few got over $30. Other banks are paying out the $3.58. It all depends on which bank you go to. They’re not offering the rate at your appointment, but is assigned to you already. Once the 800# comes out it might be different, but this is what is going on right now. We have people who signed NDAs who still haven’t gone through. They’re still waiting.

T – Some exchanged yesterday, some today, some are still waiting. Something is still going on. I know we had the date of 12/5 they didn’t want it to go to then. Is there a plan for 4-5M people? Yes. But I hope that’s different from the plan for those you hearing my voice.

“LIVE” CALL-IN STARTING NOW. C – CALLER

C – Can my sister accompany me at the exchange? I have an anxiety disorder and will need help. Also, I bank at 5/3rd Bank.

T – Tell the operator when you call about your medical need. I know 5/3 is involved, as well as WF, Chase, BoA, etc. Don’t discount 5/3rd.

C – What’s the worse-case scenario?

T – It could happen in the next 2 hours. Really quick. And it could happen next year. There may be some other things going on outside of the currency situation that doesn’t involve us (country to country), even though it may affect us. We don’t want to get involved in that. There is an absolute plan to pay some people before this is over. Between the 5th-15th, if not before.

C – Since they’ve already exchanged some people, could they say they have exchanged the public and hold off on the rest until next year?

T – Yes, as long as they’re letting some exchange they can do anything. There is a proposal to do just that. I don’t care about those other 4M people who aren’t paying attention. Other countries are saying they don’t care what they do to us. So now they’re trying to work out how to exchange the rest of us without it going public. There is a number set as to how many will get the contract rate. There is a percentage. There are some people who want us to get paid, and those who don’t want us to get paid. Money will empower people to do both good and bad.

C – So there’s only a percentage of people who will get the contract rate (percentage)?

T – Yes, and that rate is higher than I ever thought it would be. And it’s at a rate (percentage) I really can’t argue with.

(he was actually saying there was a higher percentage of people who will be getting the contract rate than he first thought)

NOTE: The current caller from NY like hearing himself talk and offers nothing to the conversation. WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

CALLER – outlined a plan to process Dinarland.

T – That’s a great thought. I could submit a list and I know they are working off private lists. Some banks brought people back this morning. Some banks aren’t having their people back in until Friday, some are bringing their people back in tomorrow. Iraq is supposed to make an announcement tonight at 9PM local time. They’re ready and are not holding this up

C – Last Friday you said you found out why it didn’t go.

T – I get frustrated when I hear they’re attempting to block us. You just have to adjust and get over it. When they try to exclude us I get frustrated. When everybody says “what’s holding this up” and I see gold, silver, etc. falling, that tells me something else is going on. And I can’t be mad at that. That’s not our business. This is global business we don’t want to get involved in.

C – It’s funny how the “global issue” wasn’t an issue when they paid some, but now it’s suddenly an issue when it comes time for us to get paid.

T – That is why on the last call I supported that. Just let everyone else go when you get all the other stuff done. At least pay us like they’re paying others. I know they are paying people. The people calling them in don’t even know how the list is being generated. They’re given a list every morning of people to call in and pay.

C – Do you know what the lop for the ZIM is for those who have gotten paid?

T – It’s somewhere between 6 and 9. Just DO NOT go and buy it as soon as you get off the phone.

C – So the latest plan is between 12/5 and 12/15, if not sooner?

T – Yes, but it could happen tonight or tomorrow. But that is the plan.

C – The PTB keeps stopping us from exchanging. You said we wouldn’t do anything unless we were not being treated fairly. It seems like since they’re stopping us from exchanging that is the very definition of not being fair.

T – They are letting some trickle through. These are ordinary people, not just politicians, rich people, etc. They are waiting for the big public push by Friday for all to go – just the internet people, not the 4-5M others. They’re devising a plan for them separately.

C – They have not released any 800#s so have we been cut off?

T – As long as they continue and it’s still building up. They have NOT said they’re NOT exchanging anymore.

C – So if we get to the 15th and they say you can’t go until 2015, what then?

T – It would be a reason on a global scale that has nothing to do with us.

C – But that “global reason” didn’t stop the others from exchanging. That doesn’t make sense.

T – Some of these going thru have no connections.

C – Most of us aren’t being allowed the opportunity.

T – They are letting some ordinary people thru, when they didn’t want any of us to go thru. I don’t know where the compromise is. Some are saying they must pay some people.

C – So where is the point?

T – If they pass an Executive Order to cut us off and say they’re done, we’ll have an issue. They are trying to get people paid who are locked into a rate. They don’t want people waiting until the int’l rate comes out and then they wait to see if the rate rises. They are trying to avoid all that. There are still good people fighting for you to get us paid. I feel very confident that it something goes wrong I will know.

Q&A FROM FORUM:

Q – Is it possible you are being used to control us?

A – I don’t work for any gov’t or exchanger. We try to make sense out of all the info. We have good people in our gov’t now who were part of other administrations and parts of GOI who contacted us from other countries, even Kurdistan. They are doing it to help us and make sure the process is fair. These guys know what happened when we did the Twitter campaign.

C – We understand this is not about us. Why are some being privileged to go through and enjoy their money since last November. If we don’t go then no one should be able to go through.

T – I understand. That’s how it is. They got paid a year ago and we still wait. The only difference is they are not saying we can’t eat at all (analogy of pigs at the trough). Now they’re cherry-picking the people they think will do something with the money. They’re going to ask you what you plan to do with the money. And from that point they decide how much you can and cannot have. There is a $50M limit, etc. They just don’t want to give people a lot of money to do stuff with. It’s all based on a questionnaire they’ll have you sign. They’ll look at your banking history, ask you what you will do with the money, etc. Remember, every bank doesn’t have to take you – only one bank (WF) has to, and they can dump you in 30 days.

C – Why not give us the 800#s and tell us a date we can call?

T – They keep saying just go around us and it will take an additional 45-60 days. Some people are getting thru and they are still getting the slow roll-out they wanted. How would it be it all of us to go in tomorrow and exchange and the Iraqi citizens can’t? If would have a global affect if our group got paid prior to the Iraqis. We have to wait.

T – I don’t have an argument as long as they do what they are supposed to do. There is still a whole lot of money out there. All that money can’t be gone til they give it to us. They can’t double-dip. We can’t expect them to do it for us when they don’t do it for Iraq. That’s when it becomes an issue for the world – when they stop paying.

C – Does the dong have to wait for the dinar to go first?

T – Yes. The dinar is the foundation for the GCR.

C – Don’t they realize they longer they wait the more millionaires and billionaires there will be?

T – They know the numbers. They audit the exchangers.

C – But more people are buying.

T – More are buying reserves than anything hoping it’ll pay off. A lot of reserves will be lost during the holiday season as people use their money for presents rather than pay off reserves.

C – Does the flat tax you mentioned cover state taxes?

T – I don’t know.

C -Have you heard if we’ll get 1099’s? Will it be ordinary income or capital gains?

T – I have no idea how they will handle taxes.

C – I’m part of the Admiral’s Group. Have you heard if anyone in that group has gotten paid?

T – There’s a whole lot of them sitting in Reno right now but I haven’t heard if any have gotten paid.

[..SweetQueen] WILEYMORGAN HAD A THREAD GOING IN FORUMS TO HELP THOSE WHOM NEEDED INFORMATION AND/OR HAD NOT SIGNED UP…. THIS WAS NOTHING NEW IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, THE INTENTION IS FOR NEW MEMBERS TO PRIVATE MESSAGE WILEYMORGAN THROUGH OUR FORUMS.

[..SweetQueen] THE THREAD HAS BEEN CLOSED AT THIS TIME BUT HE WILL CONTINUE ACCEPTING PRIVATE MESSAGES.

[..SweetQueen] I AM RECEIVING ALOT OF EMAILS AND SUPPORT REQUESTS REGARDING THIS TOPIC AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WILEYMORGAN IS THE PERSON WHOM YOU NEED TO CONTACT….. IF YOU SHOULD NEED HELP GETTING INTO OUR FORUMS THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.

C – Because the big groups have lists, when you go in will you get the contract rate?

T – I don’t think groups work that way. That’s part of the reason I said not to get involved in groups.

C – Is Regions Bank still on the list?

T – As far as I know they are.

[..SweetQueen] THOSE OF YOU CONCERNED WITH NOT HEARING FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF GENERALS64 GROUP I WOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT A THING UNLESS YOU HAVE CHANGES TO MAKE…. THERE IS NOTHING NEW TO BE SAID UNTIL OUR BLESSING ARRIVES AT WHICH TIME YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR EMAILS.

C – What is the dong rate?

T – The int’l rate will be .57 and a contract rate could come in at 1.02.

[..SweetQueen] IT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT MANY OF YOU WHOM DID NOT SIGN UP WITH A GROUP WAS DUE TO FEAR MONGERING AND NOW ARE REALIZING THAT THE BEST RATES WILL BE OBTAINED THROUGH CONTRACT RATES WHOM ARE THE PRIVATE PLACEMENT GROUPS…

T – This year is greatly different from last year, in that last year they didn’t want to pay us at all. Now there is a plan to pay us. This year everyday citizens are being paid.

C – Are we being punished because we are on the internet and know more than the average person?

T -They are not paying larger groups now, but smaller groups. Some banks have called in people who bought dinar from them and people who bugged them over the years.

T – Guys, we CANNOT GO UNTIL THE IRAQI CITIZENS GET TO GO. We don’t have an issue until they go and we don’t.

C – Then how can they justify paying these others?

T – Because you don’t know it. You don’t see anyone claiming to be paid. They signed NDAs. They’re going to shut us down when this happens. With the few that are going in now they’re not concerned about those numbers. The other countries know this is going on so the USA told them to just pay some along the way like they are. The other countries want it to free flow instead of trickle.

C – We got into this as a speculative investment, per GWB and 13303. We got in legally and now there are people in Washington – the elite – who have their money while the rest of us are literally dying while waiting.

T – I think they should pay us all and Iraq tomorrow. But the real issue they are holding it back still becomes a real issue. We cannot not care about hurting the other 250M – we would become like them by not caring.

C – Did you just say the dong is .57? Last week you said it was way over $1.

T – The int’l rate is .57 but will probably come out at 1.05 and the contract rate is 2.10.

C – I have ZIM, which will make me a billionaire. Will they allow us to have that kind of money?

T – That is exactly their concern. If you don’t have a plan or investment or humanitarian plan, they are concerned. They’re talking about structured payouts, holding 70% and give you 30%. So you’ll get $300M up front to invest and learn about money. That’s not a bad plan for the average person. That’s part of the $50M limit on the dinar. The average person becoming a billionaire overnight is crazy.

C – You mentioned an announcement at 9PM Iraqi local time. I haven’t seen it or if it did happen?

T – Sometime tonight or tomorrow there’s supposed to be a major announcement. They are waiting for ISX to open on Wednesday.

C – Are they trying to hold back the Iraqi people, too?

T – By holding it back they’re holding up the Iraqis as well. There are other global factors considered. Their laws are ready.

RECAP: I hope you took the news and understood it. I want you to understand what’s taking place. [Tony is thanking people for their donations over the weekend]. The news is good. Iraq is pushing, making announcements, putting out articles. Remember, they told their people economic reforms would be complete by Dec. 1 and that is today. They are publicly pushing it and letting everyone know they did their part. They are trying to show their people that it is being done right.

END OF CALL.

[..SweetQueen] I WANT TO CLARIFY ONCE AGAIN THAT IF YOU ARE REGISTERED WITH GENERALS64 GROUP AND HAVE ADHERE TO THEIR REQUESTS FROM THE PAST SUCH AS EACH PERSON EXCHANGING MUST BE REGISTERED WITH EMAIL YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, PLEASE DON’T OVERWHELM WILEYMORGAN UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED FOR CHANGES OR IF YOU ARE NOT REGISTERED I BELIEVE THEY ARE MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO GET NEW MEMBERS IN SINCE THE LIST WAS CLOSED LONG AGO….

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