TNT Thursday

TNT Tony C/C Notes Thursday 09/04/14

T- Today is Sept. 4th… Good morning TNT, we are only 10 minutes late…. We have really good news, good updated information. We had a real good call last time with real good information because DC got chewed out about it… It was way to detailed.

T- People want to know why we don’t challenge other gurus and why we don’t challenge them… It is not what we do, I don’t care if they comment about me. Everybody has their own opinion, resources that they talk to that they come to their own conclusions. In the end we will see how this all comes out and you can determine who was right.

T- We don’t come here and say this person say this, this person says that… our call is based on the information itself.

T there is nothing out there today – those guys do calls after we have done our call
T that is not what our call is based on – but on the information itself
T we will make an exception today = regarding comments about our call – they have to use our resources
sunny: won’t make comments on what someone else said or did

T I wouldn’t go on a site every day and comment about what someone else is saying – if I didn’t have enough resources of my own, we don’t soliicit peeps to listen to our calls or for a group
T we don’t ask for money – or ask to sign up as a group
T everybody knows who I am without a doubt – I don’t hide behind a fake internet name or pretend I’m a woman and am really a guy

T everyone knows who I am without a doubt. don’t have to hide behind a fake internet name or pretend I’m a woman when I’m a guy or change my name 3, 4 X’s on the internet

T I did n’t change my name several times on the internet – we are not trying to hide anything.
T we are not trying to hide anything – except DC  (rofl) 
T you know who Pam and Ray are.
T we are different from a whole lot of people
T – we have sources out of every gov. DC says 44 of them.
T we don’t rely on one person or three to bring us info = there are 44
T those people give us information
T – we know our responsibility and those people give us diff’t info.
T other peeps don’t have the depth of resources we have = we give it to you as it happens or in the hour
T we don’t tell you to go look at the newspaper – we know who is writing them
T – we have depth of sources. give you info within hours or just after the briefing. we don’t say go look at this article/newspaper. we don’t go by that. Iraq has announced 3x the RV already.

T Iraq has anncd. 3 times in the paper that they were going to annc. the RV

T if we were going by the annc’t/newspaper we’d be done today.
T we should have been done today – they said THursday
T we do know they have something scheduled for tomorrow
T this is Thursday. I know they have something scheduled for tomorrow.
T– if that is what we are going by we should have been done today..
T the others are repeating what they get from their sources
T but we don’t talk about what their sources said
DC – address a few things

T I do know they have something schedule for tomorrow
T let get into it..
DC I would like to address a few thing too.

DC – let me address a few things: let’s walk thru some things….one is we don’t compare info cuz we think you are smart enought to do it on your own
Dc we aren’t truying to get pissy with anyone else – it is not a competition

DC One is the reason we dont get on and trash other intel.. we are not making any money of this.. we dont have all the info….
DC – we don’t compare intel because we think you are smart enough on your own to compare. like something else, go with it. we are not getting paid for this. don’t believe it’s a competition as to which guru has the best info. I really don’t give a s–t.
who gives a shit who wins the information for the day – we are only here for where are we on this investment

DC I dont believe this is a competition..
DC we have to have that view to do this – those who want to get snarky – you are not using your intellectual horsepower to do it –

DC because all we are here for is what is the info we have..
DC – frankly some guru’s have good sources and background info and should be listened too.
DC when you get personal – they are worse for it

DC frankly there are guru’s who have good sources and frankly we should be listening to it.
DC 2 of them who throw crap the most have much more to worry about than us and are in a world or hurt and they don’t know it

DC that is law enforcement issues not mine
DC- some of them have a world of hurt for stuff done in the past.
DC the ones who want to throw out crap are people with other issues and dont even know it..

DC anyone who says they have the definitive information is full of crap
DC we talk to folks many times a day and it’s over 40 people
DC also is this who says the have the infinitive info is full of crap

DC UN, govt sources, banks,
DC – anyone who says they have definitive info about what is going on is a load of crap. T & I talk to over 40 sources a day. all over Iraq, UN, banks, US gov and everywhere else.
DC we talk to about 40 daily..

DC we are both easy going guys – and we might understand 60% of this
DC if they say that this is the ultimate answer – they don’t know shit from Shinoa(sp) –
DC they are not all-knowing

DC – we are easy going guys. if someone says it’s written in stone, they are so full of crap, they don’t know s–t from shinola. if you don’t have humility to know your not all knowing, you can’t be a good study on the issue
DC I constantly tell TONY .. we might understand 50% of this.. if they say from three or four people that they have all the info they are full of *****

DC specific issues..
DC back to specifics: take 40+ info feeds – extremely rarely do they line up
DC – let’s take 40 +info feeds. extremely rarely do they all line up.
DC on daily/weekly basis – you are right
DC what we are doing is putting the pieces to gether to find what makes the most sense – this has changed so frequently
DC – so yes, I do repeat what I’m being told. why else listen to them. we put the pieces together and we are wrong sometimes. this thing has changed so frequently, so often.
DC they constantly change this – they have attempted this over 100 times since april
DC- system gets loaded and something changes and it does not get done. that’s happenned over 100 times

DC are we wrong sometimes .. yes but this things changes so often.. and then we go through steps 1 –10 and then something changes..
DC UN, govt sources, banks,

DC – anyone who says they have definitive info about what is going on is a load of crap. T & I talk to over 40 sources a day. all over Iraq, UN, banks, US gov and everywhere else.
DC we talk to about 40 daily..
DC we are both easy going guys – and we might understand 60% of this
DC if they say that this is the ultimate answer – they don’t know shit from Shinoa(sp) –

DC they are not all-knowing
DC – we are easy going guys. if someone says it’s written in stone, they are so full of crap, they don’t know s–t from shinola. if you don’t have humility to know your not all knowing, you can’t be a good study on the issue
is: DC I constantly tell TONY .. we might understand 50% of this.. if they say from three or four people that they have all the info they are full of *****

DC specific issues..
DC back to specifics: take 40+ info feeds – extremely rarely do they line up
DC – let’s take 40 +info feeds. extremely rarely do they all line up.

DC on daily/weekly basis – you are right
DC what we are doing is putting the pieces to gether to find what makes the most sense – this has changed so frequently

DC – so yes, I do repeat what I’m being told. why else listen to them. we put the pieces together and we are wrong sometimes. this thing has changed so frequently, so often.
DC they constantly change this – they have attempted this over 100 times since april

DC- system gets loaded and something changes and it does not get done. that’s happenned over 100 times
DC are we wrong sometimes .. yes but this things changes so often.. and then we go through steps 1 –10 and then something changes..

DC those who think this is exactly the way it is – history will show how it went
DC for guys who say they know all of it
DC don’t listen to them
DC – if they think they know everything, don’t listen to them.
DC we are not saying that we know all of it – maybe 60%
DC – change some specific points because of chewing out I got.
DC those who think they know everything.. probably not good to listen.. but good to listen to a few different folks..

DC- we did not say it was “live.”
DC got chewed out last couple of days..
DC – recd ass-chewing – need to address = we were not saying that this was live throughtout the world
DC if you will listen ot the transcript or call – we didn’t say that
DC when we said it was through the world we are not saying LIVE..
DC – not saying Iraq can get $75K for 25K note. some people on 3 diff’t continents exchanged.
DC we are saying that we know 3 diff people on 3 continents use funds – on heavy equip. ,order goods etc
DC we are saying we had three different people.. three different continents who acting received new rates and actually spent the money on business equip..

DC – it is not all over the world. 3 totally independent peeps on 3 diff’t continents – clearly being accepted in some cases and not universally.

DC we are saying 3 totally independent people say that they are using the funds in some cases and not universally
DC this was independent verification

Dc guy in Germany in South America and in Dubai
DC don’t know each other
T these werw all Iraqi citizens using Q cards
T – all Iraqi citizens and used their Qu cards.
DC correct
DC there is clearly in some cases .. the new rates being accepted in certain circumstance
DC we are not giving fancy inside info just info

T this where are three Iraqi citizens through their Qcards
DC I was not saying that there was an NSA blackout of calls into Iraq – just people having problems getting thru
DC – some peeps could not get thru to Iraq. – not saying some evil plan to block getting thru.

DC friends were having issues getting thru – no big evil USA plan to block communication
DC I was not saying there was a NSA blackout. .I just could not make calls when the usually go through easily at a certain time
T DC there have been days of comm block outs, right?

T – there have been days we know there were communication black outs due to plans that were made for events to occur
DC absolutely – on Sunday specifically they were upset about saying that
DC we are here to educate and get eveyone thru the game

T there have been communication blackouts.. but we are not talking about SUnday specifically
DC we are here to help and educate people in the game here..
DC East to West
DC – everybody cued up in Iraq; fancy dignitaries there. not for the heat. it’s 120 now.
DC – made progress on budget. Sunni’s putting down arms and joining the gov.
DC Key point all are keyed up in Iraq.. Fancy dignitaries in Iraq..
DC – East to West: 2 points – all keyed up in Iraq – bunch of fancy dignitaries there not just to enjoy the heat ….. lots of Parl stuff back and forth – movement on budget – Sunnis getting in line

DC make more progress on budget.
DC more Sunnies are joining governemtn
DC 3 weeks ago govt in Iraq annouced govt was complete – planned to vote and reveal 3 weeks ago
DC – gov . done, no it’s not. so – the gov. announced it was complete and said they woudl reveal it on a Thurs/Fri. morning. this was 3 weeks ago. some voted on, some not
DC got eveyone worked up
DC then their was international ?? asking to delay it..
DC – then int’l diplomacy asked them to delay that. in the grand scheme of things some not as important as others.
DC then some intl diplomacy asked to delay – back and forth- in ensuing time, 2 ministers who are not important to situation that some folks had problems with – Najafi had issues with 2 guys – health and interior minister –
DC – important positions; health and utility ministers but unrelated to int’l
DC do they affect RV? NO – just asked for review of these men – govt is done but need to vote on last 2

DC two ministers that are in the scheme of things that some folks had some issue which.. very important positions.. but not related to the RV..
DC gov. done except for those last 2 and going back and forth on that issue
DC gov done except for those last two.
DC if you hear that – it has been reviewed and recommended – they can announce later
DC today or tonight
DC – they could announce them later.

DC – all big, big ministers have been done for weeks and working in their offices
DC all key positions have been done for weeks and are doing their jobs

DC – helping understand where the govt is
DC when you hear that ministers are not done but they could announce or replace later.. but everybody else .. all the big big ones have been done for weeks and are already doing their jobs..
DC all ready – constitutional deadline to be done by next Tues. – ancilllary vote 0 not waiting
DC they do have a constitution deadline by next Tues..

DC they are there to get job done
DC – constitutional deadline to have all ministers in place by next Tues. basically a vote
DC they are there to get their job done and witnesses Iraq becoming a major player
T sorry – but realize big picture – the hold up they are talking about is to seat ministers – just reading news that you must know that cannot be what holds it up – but real agenda is in background to hold it up – to the public in Iraq. the real agenda is in the background. GOI seating of ministers is just being used for the public for Iraq citizen T: the real agenda is in the background and not being talked about.. just being used as an excuss to theIraq people..

T – when other guru’s say look at what’s in the paper – it’s for peeps who believe in what they publish
T we are not going to discusss here – understand this is just for the public – for people who must read it in the paper – this is not even being discussed
T this is just republic view..
T- everybody likes to cuss the papers – any country does.
DC right – not that the paper is wrong just often they are more discretion used
T – you can tell the articles is a repeat with a diff’t date.
DC word for word the same article is put out with different date

DC- East to West… Everybody is keyed up in Iraq with dignitaries there not to enjoy the Sept. heat… there for obvious reasons… they have made progress on budget… some putting down arms and joining the govt. Over 3 weeks ago, the govt said that things are now complete and we are going to reveal it at the end of the week. They had everybody voted on and they were going to announce it. Then international back and forth over diplomacy happened. Some folks had some real problems over minister positions that did not concern us over revaluation. They just want them to be qualified. Officially they have not voted on two positions… these positions have been recommended and reviewed. They could put them in and replace them later.

DC- The big positions have been done for weeks. They do have the constitutional deadline next Tuesday. They are not waiting to do that until then.

DC- Currency is being accepted in some cases, but not universally.

T- This is all iraqi citizens using their Qi cards in their contracts.

DC- On Sunday, when I said calls were being interrupted in Iraq, not all calls were being blocked… Some people were not able to get through… but there was not a giant evil plan to block all calls.

T- There have been days with communication block outs with things and plans going on… not on Sunday

T- Look at the big picture… the hold up that they are telling the public is that they are waiting on new ministers to seat in the GOI… the real agenda is not being talked about, this is an excuse to the public in Iraq. They don’t know the other stuff going on in meetings in the background. People in the meetings aren’t even discussing those minister subjects.

Everybody is keyed up in Iraq with dignitaries there not to enjoy the Sept. heat… there for obvious reasons… they have made progress on budget… some putting down arms and joining the govt. Over 3 weeks ago, the govt said that things are now complete and we are going to reveal it at the end of the week. They had everybody voted on and they were going to announce it. Then international back and forth over diplomacy happened. Some folks had some real problems over minister positions that did not concern us over revaluation. They just want them to be qualified. Officially they have not voted on two positions… these positions have been recommended and reviewed. They could put them in and replace them later.

Dc- The big positions have been done for weeks. They do have the constitutional deadline next Tuesday. They are not waiting to do that until then.

T- Look at the big picture… the hold up that they are telling the public is that they are waiting on new ministers to seat in the GOI… the real agenda is not being talked about, this is an excuse to the public in Iraq. They don’t know the other stuff going on in meetings in the background. People in the meetings aren’t even discussing those minister subjects

DC- There are two announcements scheduled for today, this morning and later today… everybody is ready for them… they have til Tuesday to do them.
DC Is Dr. Turkin gone? Because it was put in by Maliki, there are always issues with him. Frankly he is tired. He wants to retire…. Everyone came to agreement that let’s get this done and you can retire. There is a process and people are helping him to get this done, so is Dr. Shabbibi. It is not as acrimonious as some articles say. Are some nefarious things going on? Not really that bad… he has done a good job doing what he is doing

T- Know certain things are being put out to give a reason to the public as to why this isn’t done yet. They keep coming up with minor issues that delay 24-48 hours that works in their excuse department.

DC- Security situation in Iraq… Kurdish and Iraqi forces are having great success and US and coalition forces doing a great job. Stabilizing the issues of that. They continue to roll that back… The ISIL issues are based in Syria mostly.

T- In opinion of the people we talked to, would they let Turki go before this is complete? DC- No

T- No way they will let him walk out of this, doesn’t make sense DC- he doesn’t either

DC – Ukraine/Wales A lot of agreements going back and forth…. to arrange things to tackle the issues to get a coalition to assist in ISIL and Ukraine.
DC- Everyone would feel better with a lot of money in your pocket… same with politicians… they will feel better about tackling ISIS when they have the money to do it

DC – Stateside, UN security council is pushing to get things done and are pleased on all fronts and are yet frustrated the RV is not done. The administration now sees the light and they are much more supportive and much more aggressive in getting it done. Treasure, BIS.. etal. are all ready to get this done.

T- New banking laws finalized yesterday and this morning as well as some tomorrow expected, to be done on the weekend… to address the RV and how the banks handle the RV funds… they expect them complete and out by Saturday morning… great timing

DC- The entire system is on a 2 minute pull time throughout the entire world… A wonderful thing.

T- Monday night we heard it is one level from the teller screens around the world, four banks with the same rate… the system is ready to go… the system is ready to go, no delays from the system.

T- Tonight or tomorrow … major announcement in Iraq.

T- There is a deadline to all of this madness… more madness to come if they don’t get this done

NOW Q&A Callers….

C- There is a report on Fox and CNN about Iraq gov’t being announced next week DC- Chuck Hagel says that this has to be done by Tuesday… that is how they got it

C- Is there anything that may let it go past Tuesday of next week DC- They would have to have a special exemption, reelect Prime Minister, etc.

T- Multiple countries have this deadline

C- New bank laws for currency exchange should be done by Saturday? T- No so much about the RV, but how banks treat it afterward… new guidelines for them to follow. DC- Extension of Dodd-Frank regulations.

C- If they announce the GOI today, do you expect the RV to go hand in hand with that? DC- RV at the same time or before.

C- They have been ready go 100’s of times and they held it up, so next time can they say, sorry we are going ahead with it?

DC- I think that we have brought enough light to determine who are the ones with the issues… Iraq is the only one that can change the timelines now. The process is now that if the US wants to put it off, they would have to convince others. In the last week, it has been Iraq’s time. It is their decision.

DC- I think that we have brought enough light to determine who are the ones with the issues… Iraq is the only one that can change the timelines now. The process is now that if the US wants to put it off, they would have to convince others. In the last week, it has been Iraq’s time. It is their decision.

T- Let’s go one step further… history will say this, the RV occurred on July the… DC cut him off.

C- On Tuesday, you said there were 4 windows, one passed… where are we? DC- One has passed, actually there are 5 windows… 1 and 2 have passed… we are in #3 …

C- Have you gotten feedback with what you can do post RV? T- One call and then we are done.

C- Some say watch the CBI site, others say it is not worthy. DC- Yeah watch it. There will be a loading period throughout the world… they have changed it to be more insantaneous to a 2 minute live situation. IMF to CIX to Central Banks to street banks… the whole system is on a 2 minute timeline. They are comfortable with the system going forth. That process will go out… they can’t notifiy banks, dealers, politicians in a short time frame… people will find out after it is live. At that point, the banks will do what they need to do, security will go in, officers will go in… Everyone will be playing catch up.

T- Be fully aware of that. They changed the whole procedure… It helps us.. DC- A wonderful thing

C- If we monitor CBI site, better than Forex? DC- Yes, both will be updated after the RV
Talking about meeting after RV  
(TNT members meeting)

C- They sent some back because of the Minister of Defense? DC- The one the send back is the Health Minister… due to trying to discredit him

C- Bank changes for our benefit or banks benefit? DC- Largely the banks… Regulators will provide info on laws and restrictions, which were published with Dodd-Frank… this is just the next round of laws on a specific topic.

C- Bank changes by Saturday, will it hold things up? DC– No it will not.
DC- Can we mix Dong, Zim, Rup? T- I would keep the Dinar seperate, you can mix the others.
C- Will we see this on US Media? DC- You will only hear about the GOI… unlikely to hear about the RV

T- Summary: It is time, we will do another call tomorrow… The 9th is a significant date, if it isn’t we have issues. We will do our call tomorrow and we will have an update and hopefully we will have the announcements to talk about. DC- Everybody is ready on a 2 minute notice. T- The announcements are later today or some kind of announcements… we will talk about it on tomorrow’s call. THE END

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