Tony – Monday

T = TONY | DC = DC GUY | C = CALLER | PWATQNWTA = PERSON WHO ASKS THE QUESTIONS NOBODY WANTS TO ANSWER

NOTE: Just heard via TNT that DC is not on the call today. Call starting now.

TONY – Good afternoon, TNT. It’s Monday, October 13, 2014 and once again I’m going to agree with all of you that I never thought we’d be here today. We have a lot of stuff to talk about – things that make sense and things that don’t. I’m going to give the info you want first for those of you who have to work.

T – First of all, this was supposed to go down on Saturday but there was a “system interruption” on Friday not. Over the weekend it was scheduled, celebrations were scheduled. There was a formal request again for a 2-day delay. Everything we’re hearing is it’s completed and ready to go. Nobody is arguing. There was a Fox News report with a link saying “Iraq has completed filling the cabinet officials, it’s final, and the ministers were named.” Once again, the idiots said it wasn’t true and it came out exactly like we said it was. As of this morning, the other thing we told you was settled months ago, was HCL and Abadi agreed to 17% (which Maliki would not give them) and that was publicly known. Those 2 things have been completed like we said and wasn’t supposed not to be announced until the GCR/RV. But we still are waiting.

T – I’m going to read you some things I received and we’ll talk about them: “supposed to happen by the 14th and Iraq owes bills on the 15th”, “Iraq on the verge of entering the int’l economy”, now they’re saying by the 14th on Iraqi TV. I just got this that they are not going to make the deadline but everything should be finished up between the 14th and 24th. This is what some people in other countries are being told. But this is not what I’m being told, or what is scheduled.

T – “Iraqi papers reported this morning that the Kurds are now on board and the 17% has been agreed to.” “More LDs have been put out, tho few people are actually using them since they’re pretty worthless.” They are trying to convince people that change is right around the corner. They’re trying to get the currency out in the marketplace before they change the rate (RV). Rumors about Abadi being ill are unfounded. He did not have a heart attack.

T – Something always happens to the PM right before a revaluation. There is no ongoing delay until after the mid- terms. The worst date we have heard is the 24th. But there are too many things happening for them to wait until the 24th. So let’s talk about something that I heard that bothered you over the weekend.

T – There’s a rumor that the dinar is coming out at .86 to 1.00. First of all, they’ve already the cards at 3.58. There have already been some exchanges here in the USA at 3.71. It doesn’t make any sense for it to come out at 1.00. We expect it to come down based on the price of oil, but not as low as 1.00. Over 30,000 people know that the rate is loaded at 3.58. What do you think hedge fund manager would do? They would buy every dinar they could and it would create trillionaires. If it comes out at 1.00 I would exchange it, buy more and wait for the $3 rate and then exchange again. I’d be on Forbes’ Top Ten List. That’s what I’d do if it came out at 1.00. That’s why it doesn’t make sense to me. There are a whole of people smarter than I am who know what would happen if they let it come out at a dollar.

T – There’s a rumor that the dinar is coming out at .86 to 1.00. First of all, they’ve already the cards at 3.58. There have already been some exchanges here in the USA at 3.71. It doesn’t make any sense for it to come out at 1.00. We expect it to come down based on the price of oil, but not as low as 1.00. Over 30,000 people know that the rate is loaded at 3.58. What do you think hedge fund manager would do? They would buy every dinar they could and it would create trillionaires. If it comes out at 1.00 I would exchange it, buy more and wait for the $3 rate and then exchange again. I’d be on Forbes’ Top Ten List. That’s what I’d do if it came out at 1.00. That’s why it doesn’t make sense to me. There are a whole of people smarter than I am who know what would happen if they let it come out at a dollar.

T – Also, we saw an article last week where Abadi complained about a missing $8 Billion from the Maliki administration. Stuart Bowen from the USA was put in charge of tracking down $12-$14 Billion USD that went to Iraq and disappeared. This money is missing but Bowen found a bunker in Lebanon where the money is stored. This is in the newspaper – it’s public. Our Government won’t let him go get this money. Everybody says it’s off limits. He was told to find it, he did and turned it over to the FBI, CIA, etc. and was told to leave it alone. Interesting.

T – There was an article in Parade Magazine about a little girl who needed a prosthetic arm. It would cost over $60,000 every six months while she grows to replace a prosthetic. But they printed a 3-D arm on a desktop printer at home for only $2,000. They are working on 3-D printing rocket parts to cut costs. There are so many things to look at for this industry.

T – There was an article in Parade Magazine about a little girl who needed a prosthetic arm. It would cost over $60,000 every six months while she grows to replace a prosthetic. But they printed a 3-D arm on a desktop printer at home for only $2,000. They are working on 3-D printing rocket parts to cut costs. There are so many things to look at for this industry.

T – So, there’s the news. We’re still looking for it at any time. It’s not a system issue, not a minister issue, not an HCL issue, it’s something else. The HCL 17% has been formally agreed on. We told you a month ago as soon as it’s time for the RV you’ll see these things start to pop, and that’s what is happening. It should have been this weekend, but here we are.

“LIVE” CALL-IN STARTING NOW. C = CALLER

C – I read on a blog from a bank contact that there would be a 10% Federal Tax taken out at exchange?

T – I’m going to hold back 65% for taxes (since I’m in California). I’d rather be safe than sorry. I did hear they would take out 9% at the exchange but that’s not in writing yet. It’s not law. I’m preparing myself for worst-case scenario – the max they can charge me.

C – It would be smart for the PTB let you and DC review their website in advance to help them streamline the process.

T – 2 things would happen: they would be admitting a date, and people would go and buy dinar instead of paying their bills, and with all the delays, it wouldn’t be a good scenario if it delays again. Plus, their employees would buy dinar and quit their jobs.

C – Is the ZIM going to be ZWM or ZWL?

T – I’ve heard that as well. I think we’ll be okay either way. Like Iraq, they’re going to have new currency supposedly.
apparently the current prevailing thought is that Tony and DC will not be allowed to provide post-RV guidance or calls. Rather, the PTB will launch a new website with all the info we’ll need to carry-out an exchange.

NOTE: Tony is discussing Will not be transcribed.

C – Over the weekend Pam posted that everyone was “flippin’ awesome.” What was so awesome?

T – She spent the weekend reading the posts and things they are great, the heart-breaking stories with thanks and gratitude.

C – Do you really think we could see this in the next few days?

T – I’m going to be honest with you (which I always am), I heard it was supposed to be this past weekend but I didn’t get excited. Do I expect it to be delayed every time? Yes. But they do have speeches and celebrations scheduled. I know it could go at any moment because there’s nothing holding it up that we’ve ever heard of. It’s some other situation going on that somebody is using to barter with.

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C – If they put duct tape over you and DC, how will we know if anyone ever got the contract rate?

T – I will know and DC will know. You’ll have to believe in me. Over the years I’ve been offered opportunities to exchange. But I didn’t do it because it’s not right. I would have had to stop the calls. They don’t want us to talk to people. As far as being fair and doing what they said they’d do, I’m signing an agreement (31 pages for the next 15 years) that I won’t talk to Dinarland. I’ll live up to my end of the agreement.

C – In a free country, how can they prevent you from having an event (like Vegas)?

T – I want to do the 4 events and you meet people you’ve been chatting with. I want WF to come and hold wealth management seminars for you. They just don’t want one guy to have that much influence and contact with millionaires and billionaires. They don’t want me sharing and influencing that many people with great investment opportunities, the next currencies to invest in, etc.

NOTE: Tony said he had opportunities to exchange but didn’t want to have to watch his empty bank account while waiting on the SKRs to be funded.

C – Are you hearing about an entrapments at the banks we might face?

T – Hmm, this is a touchy situation. In years past I’ve had bank people actually tell me to have our people prepared and aware. These wealth managers work for the bank, not for you. I don’t care how much money he says he’s trying to make for you – he has to make money for the bank. If they make money for you while doing that, well okay.

C – My concern is they are trying to treat us like cattle going thru a chute in 20 minutes. I don’t trust the banks.

T – I agree. I’m hoping their websites will give you a lot of info about your appointment. No one is going to force me to do something I don’t understand 100%, regardless of how long it takes me. I want to understand whatever I sign. If you have large amounts of currency the old adage applies: “if you’ve got the money, they’ve got the time.” In the future I will be able to walk THRU the line, not stand in it.

C – What are you hearing about the dong rate?

T – I can’t say rates. I will tell you it’s a whole lot more than .05.

C – I heard between $2-$3.

T – I don’t think that’s going to be the int’l rate. That may be a contract rate. It might be in that range, let me say that. From my perspective, the dinar is great, which is why 5M people have it. But less than a million people have dong. It’s actually lower than that. There are less people that have the Zim than have dong. If I was going to do it all over again, I’d collect those in reverse order (Zim, dong, dinar). It gets greater later out of that list. The dinar is getting all the noise, but there are some tremendous opportunities to the right.

T – I don’t think that’s going to be the int’l rate. That may be a contract rate. It might be in that range, let me say that. From my perspective, the dinar is great, which is why 5M people have it. But less than a million people have dong. It’s actually lower than that. There are less people that have the Zim than have dong. If I was going to do it all over again, I’d collect those in reverse order (Zim, dong, dinar). It gets greater later out of that list. The dinar is getting all the noise, but there are some tremendous opportunities to the right.

C – Lots of us have been with you a long time .. our concern is that we have been thru this with you and now the banks want to shut you down and know we don’t what mine field we would be stepping into.

T – I’ve told people about the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd mouse. I don’t know their final numbers. Some weeks they say we’ll have 7 days, then 14 days, then a 15-minute statement. It keeps changing. By not letting us be part of the process it could really mess things up but they think differently.

T – They have been promising their people it’s getting ready to happen soon. Pam is excited about something. LOL!

T – I was only supposed to do an hour since DC isn’t here, so I’ll just do a couple more calls.

C – If we take a contract rate and sign an NDA and go back with reserves, does the NDA cover both?

T – Absolutely. If you take the int’l rate with no NDA and then take reserves at the int’l rate, there is no NDA applicable to those transactions.

C – If we take a contract rate and sign an NDA and go back with reserves, does the NDA cover both?

T – Absolutely. If you take the int’l rate with no NDA and then take reserves at the int’l rate, there is no NDA applicable to those transactions.

C – Is there a possible last minute backroom deal going on at this time?

T – It’s not only possible but logical. Considering what’s going on in Iraq according to the news, they’re close to Baghdad. Why, knowing that with a simple economic reform of paying their people, all this would stop. ISIS soldiers would quit and take the higher money from Iraq. They would lay down their weapons. That is, unless there is something else going on and someone is using this as a bargaining chip.

RECAP: T – It should have happened over the weekend. People were put in certain positions and places. Bank people thought they’d be working today even tho it’s a holiday. People are excited in the exchange centers. We heard there was a technical delay, they a request to delay a couple more days. That time could be up today. There is nothing in Iraq, not the budget, not the ministers being seated, not the HCL, holding anything up. The process is there, we’re just waiting for the activation. This is about to happen. Don’t sell your dinar. Prepare yourself. I will be just as shocked as you will be when it happens. Ultimately we know this must go through. Have a great day. We are just that close. If Pam’s excited, you know it was good. Hopefully I can tweet it out.

END OF CALL.

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